Showing posts with label fiction editor. Show all posts
Showing posts with label fiction editor. Show all posts

Thursday, April 15, 2021

How to save a bundle on editing costs – without sacrificing quality

by Jodie Renner, freelance fiction editor & craft-of-writing author

Whether you plan to publish your novel yourself, query agents, or pitch it directly to publishers, it’s highly recommended (essential, really) to get your manuscript edited by a respected freelance fiction editor who reads and edits your genre. 

Can’t afford it, you say? Realistically, if you want your novel to get accepted, sell well, and get lots of 5-star reviews, you can’t afford not to. All successful authors use editors. Read the Acknowledgments page of bestsellers  the author often thanks 3-5 editors. (Of course, the average indie author can't afford that, but at least get one!)

Editing fees vary hugely, depending on the length and quality of the manuscript and how much work is needed to take it from “so-so” or “pretty good” to a real page-turner that engages readers, sells well, and garners great reviews. 

Before approaching an editor, it's important to be sure your story is already as tight and compelling as you can make it – and that it’s under 100,000 words long. 70-90K is generally preferred for today’s fiction.

Here are some tips for reducing your editing costs and ensuring a much higher-quality edit and final product. Down at the bottom you'll find more specific tips for revising various aspects of your story.

Don’t be in a hurry to pitch or publish your book before it’s ready.

If you rush to publish an early draft, you could do your reputation as a writer a lot of damage. Once the book is out there and getting negative reviews, the bad publicity could sink your career before it has had a chance to take off. And you can't get those reviews deleted  they won't go away. It’s important to open your mind to the very real possibility probability that your story could use clarification, tightening,  revising, polishing, and generally sprucing up on several levels, areas that may not have occurred to you because you’re too close to the story or maybe even unaware of key techniques that bring fiction to life. 

First, of course, write freely. Then, when inspiration wanes, step back, hone your skills, and evaluate.

First, get your ideas down as quickly as you can, with no editing – write with wild abandon and let your muse flow freely. But once you’ve gotten your story down (or as far as your initial surge of creativity will take you for now), it’s a good time to put it aside for a week or three and bone up on some current, well-respected craft advice, with your story in the back of your mind. Then you can re-attack your novel with fresh ideas and inspiration, and address any possible issues you weren’t aware of that could be considered amateurish, confusing, heavy-handed, or boring to today’s sophisticated, savvy readers. 

Now’s the time to read a few books by the writing “gurus” and maybe join a critique group (in-person or online) and/or attend some writing workshops. Also, read and analyze successful novels in your genre.

Then, notes in hand, roll up your sleeves and revise your novel, based on what you’ve learned. (See link at the end to my step-by-step revision tips.)

If you then send your improved story, rather than your first or second draft, to a freelance editor, they will be able to concentrate on more advanced fine-tuning instead of just spending all their time and energy flagging basic issues and newbie-type weaknesses. 

With a cleaner, sharper copy, they'll be able to tackle more advanced issues and take your manuscript up several more levels. Not only that, if you're more informed, you’ll “get” the editor’s suggestions, so the whole process will go a lot smoother and be more enjoyable and beneficial.

A great book to start with is my short, sweet, to-the-point, award-winning Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Stories,  Fire up Your Fiction. 

And for additional advice on point of view, avoiding author intrusions, and showing instead of telling, peruse Captivate Your Readers

And if you’re writing a suspenseful story or other fast-paced fiction, check out my Writing a Killer Thriller for more great tips. 

All three are available in print or e-book, which you can also read on your computer, laptop, tablet, or smartphone. 

And when it comes time to find a freelance editor, don’t shop for the cheapest one and insist that your manuscript only needs a quick final proofread or light edit.  

That approach will result in a cursory, superficial, even substandard job, like hiring a painter to paint the exterior of a house that’s falling over and needs rebuilding, and will actually end up costing you more money in the long run.

Why?

Because you could well be unaware of how many structural, content, and stylistic weaknesses your story may contain, which should be addressed and fixed before the final copyedit stage.

Paying for a basic copyedit and proofread on a long, weak manuscript, only to find out later it needs a major overhaul, which will then require rewriting and another full copyedit, is short-sighted — and money down the drain.

Is your novel more than 90-100K words long? Time to go through and tighten it up!

If your novel is a rambling 120-130,000 words long, it needs weeding of anything superfluous or repetitious. It’s very likely you need to focus your story; cut down on descriptions, explanations, and backstory; eliminate or combine some characters; maybe delete a sub-plot or two; plug some plot holes; fix point-of-view issues; pick up the pace, make your dialogue snappier; and turn those long, meandering sentences and paragraphs into lean, mean, to-the-point writing.

Not only will this process make your story much stronger and more captivating, but it will save you a bundle on editing costs, since freelance editors charge by the word, the page, or the hour, and editing your 80 or 90,000-word, tighter, self-edited and revised book will cost you a whole lot less than asking them to slog through 120-130K words written in rambling, convoluted sentences.

Is your novel too long? Check out these practical tips:

 ~ How to Slash Your Word Count by 20-40% …and tighten up your story without losing any of the good stuff!


Your story may even need a structural or developmental edit.

If you’re at the stage where you know it’s not great, but you’re too close to your story to pinpoint the weaknesses, perhaps you should hire a developmental editor or book coach to stand back and take a look at the big picture for you and give you a professional assessment of your manuscript’s strengths and weaknesses. 

Or if you can’t afford a developmental editor, try a critique group or 3-6 beta (volunteer) readers – smart acquaintances who read a lot in your genre – to give you some advice on your story line and characters and flag any plot holes or spots where the story lags or is confusing or illogical, or they can't warm up to the character.  Here is a list of questions to ask your beta readers.

Enlist help to ferret out inconsistencies and inaccuracies.

You don’t want to lose reader trust and invite bad reviews by being careless about facts and time sequences, etc., either. Find a critique partner or an astute friend or two with an inquiring mind and an eye for detail and ask them to read your story purely for logistics. Do all the details make sense? How about the time sequences? Character motivations? Accuracy of information?

For technical info, do your research or try to find an expert or two in the field, and rather than asking them to plow through your whole novel, just send them the sections that are relevant to their area of expertise. 

It’s even possible that you’ve based your whole story premise on something that doesn’t actually make sense or is just too far-fetched, and the sooner you find that out the better!

Read it aloud.

Read your whole story out loud to check for a natural, easy flow of ideas, in the characters’ vernacular and voice, which of course need to suit the tone, mood, and situation. This part of the process should also help you cut down on awkward sentences, confusing wording, and overall rambling / wordiness, all of which will turn agents and readers off. 

Run it through grammar check and spell-check. 

Or get someone you know who's good at that to go through it for you. Of course, you and they need to keep in mind that fiction is usually written in casual language, with lots of contractions, and the dialogue is often in incomplete sentences, with colloquial and sometimes profane language.

The more advance work you do, the less you’ll pay for editing.

So, to save money and increase your sales and royalties, after writing your first or second draft, it’s critical to hone your fiction-writing skills and go through your manuscript several more times and enlist some beta readers to give you feedback before sending it to an editor. 

Also, be sure to find an editor who specializes in fiction and edits your genre, and get them to do a sample edit (free or paid) of at least the first four or five pages. 

(See my article, “Looking for an editor? Check them out very carefully!”

Many editors, including myself, will offer a detailed edit and critique of the first few chapters (not free, of course, and you need to send them a brief synopsis, too, so they'll know what the story is about). I highly recommend you start with that introductory edit. This is often a huge eye-opener for the author and money extremely well-spent, as you can then use their suggestions to revise the rest of the novel before getting them (or another editor) to go through the rest, at a  possibly significantly  lower rate because it will now be cleaner, tighter, and more polished. 

And don’t make your main priority finding the cheapest editor, as they may be just starting out and unaware of important fiction-writing issues that should be addressed, such as point of view, showing instead of telling, and avoiding info dumps and other author intrusions. 

And whatever you do, don’t tie the editor’s hands by insisting your manuscript only needs a light edit, because that’s cheaper. 

You could well end up paying for that uninformed, “cheap” light edit on an overlong, weak manuscript, then discovering that the story has big issues that need to be addressed and requires major revisions, including slashing and rewriting. Then you’ll have to pay for another complete edit of the new version! $$ multiplied!

Speaking as a professional editor with 13 years of experience, I have found that often, new writers are unaware of weaknesses in their novels, issues that can cause rejections or that readers will catch and complain about. You don’t necessarily know what you don’t know.

Also, check out the editor's guidelines and be sure to send them what they need, including the genre, a brief synopsis (story line), and brief character descriptions. 

And be sure to format your novel properly before sending it to an editor or agent: 

Times New Roman, 12-point, double-spaced, left-justified, paragraphs indented, no extra space between paragraphs, and one space (not two) between sentences. And don't use Tab or the space bar for indents  that causes headaches. Use the Paragraph function to do it properly. 

For more specific tips, see my article, Basic Formatting of Your Manuscript.

Check out these other articles by Jodie for lots of concrete tips on revising and tightening your novel (Click on the titles below):

REVISE FOR SUCCESS – A Stress-Free, Concrete Plan of Action for Revising, Editing, and Polishing YourNovel

Is your novel more than 90K words?

 ~ How to Slash Your Word Count by 20-40% …and tighten up your story without losing any of the good stuff!

~ 15 Questions for Your Beta Readers -- and to focus your own revisions

And a handy alphabetical spelling checklist:

~ 90+ Commonly Misused Sound-Alike Word Pairs


Jodie Renner is a freelance fiction editor and the award-winning author of three writing guides in her series An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction: FIRE UP YOUR FICTION, CAPTIVATE YOUR READERS, and WRITING A KILLER THRILLER, as well as two clickable time-saving e-resources, QUICK CLICKS: Spelling List and QUICK CLICKS: Word Usage. She has also organized and edited two anthologies for charity. Website: www.JodieRenner.com, Facebook, Amazon Author Page.

Sunday, August 4, 2013

RESOURCES FOR WRITERS NEWSLETTER

by Jodie Renner, editor & author

I just sent out my first newsletter, and here's the text of it. To subscribe to my future newsletters (3-12 per year), click on the link below. Also, please let me know of any writing-related topics you'd like me to cover in blog posts. Thanks, and keep on writing!



Welcome to Resources for Writers! My aim is to offer lots of great links to useful articles and other valuable resources for fiction writers, as well as alerts on freebies and discounts on my books and others.

Feel free to forward this blog post to any other writers you know, and perhaps suggest they subscribe to receive the next newsletter directly. Here’s the link to subscribe to “Resources for Writers” occasional newsletters:  http://eepurl.com/C9dKD

Scroll down for links to giveaways and useful blog posts by me and others.

Summertime, and the livin’ is...hectic? This spring and summer have been crazy busy! Besides editing fiction and writing craft-of-fiction advice, I’ve also been speaking to writers’ groups. In May & July, I presented two workshops and have other panels and workshops planned for upcoming writing conferences.

Also, I’ve been busy revising and expanding my Writing a Killer Thriller An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction (new edition now in print, too), writing blog posts, editing fiction manuscripts for others, judging self-published books for Writer’s Digest, and attending Thrillerfest in NYC in July, where I participated in a panel “How to Be a Masterful Editor – of Your Own Work.”

And I’m preparing a workshop on “Deep Point of View” for Killer Nashville in three weeks, where I’ll also be on a panel called “Be Your Own Editor – Make Your Book the Best it Can Be.” And finally, I’ll be contributing to two magazines, in August & Sept. (details & links below).

GOODREADS GIVEAWAYS


I’m giving away a book a week for the months of August & October on Goodreads. Here’s the schedule and links for August. Click on the title to go to Goodreads.

Aug. 1 - 14 – 2 print copies of STYLE THAT SIZZLES & PACING FOR POWER will be given away.

Aug. 14 - 28 – 2 print copies of WRITING A KILLER THRILLER will be given away.

This pattern of Giveaways on Goodreads will repeat in October (2 weeks for each book, one free book per week).

SOME RECENT BLOG POSTS OF INTEREST TO FICTION WRITERS

Click on the title to go to the article.

- Developing a Strong Third-Person Voice, by Jodie Renner, The Kill Zone

- Analyzing Book Description Copy, by James Scott Bell, The Kill Zone

- The Readers Sound Off! How They Read, What They Like and Where They Find Us, by Marie Force, New York Times, USA Today and Wall Street Journal Bestselling Author

- What Does an Agent Want to See When They Google You? By Chuck Sambuchino:

- Thought Verbs, by Chuck Palahniuk:

- Tips for Writing Compelling Back Cover Copy, by Jodie Renner, Crime Fiction Collective:

- Basic Formatting of Your Manuscript (Formatting 101), by Jodie Renner:

- Revising, Editing, and Polishing Your Novel, by Jodie Renner:

- Write a Killer Thriller Opening, by Jodie Renner, Writers Forensics blog:

- Adding Suspense, Tension, & Intrigue to Your Story, by Jodie Renner, The Thrill Begins:

 - Big-Picture Problems to Look for in Your Novel , CFC:

- Checklist for Adding Suspense & Intrigue, by Jodie Renner, The Kill Zone:

 

JODIE’S ARTICLES OR INTERVIEWS IN WRITING-RELATED MAGAZINES


Suspense Magazine, August 2013 issue: “Adding Tension, Suspense, & Intrigue to Your Story” by Jodie Renner: http://www.suspensemagazine.com/

Southern Writers Magazine, Sept.-Oct. issue – interview of Jodie Renner, freelance editor: www.southernwritersmagazine.com
 

RECENT & UPCOMING WORKSHOPS AND PANELS


- Aug. 23-25, 2013 - Killer Nashville Conference, Nashville, Tenn. http://www.killernashville.com/schedule/ :

Jodie will present a workshop called “Deep Point of View, or How to Avoid Head-Hopping.”

Also, she’ll be on a panel called “Be Your Own Editor – Make Your Book the Best it Can Be.”

- July 13, 2013: Thrillerfest, New York City. Jodie participated in a panel called “How to Become a Masterful Editor—of Your Own Work.” She also distributed three relevant handouts on revision and self-editing.

- July 18, 2013: London Writers Society, London, Ontario: Jodie presented a workshop on “Self-Publishing on Amazon.”

- May 2013: Jodie presented a workshop called "12 Do's & Don'ts for a Compelling Opening" to the London Writers Society.



Jodie Renner, a freelance fiction editor specializing in thrillers and other fast-paced fiction, has published two books to date in her series, An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction: WRITING A KILLER THRILLER and STYLE THAT SIZZLES & PACING FOR POWER, both available in e-book and trade paperback.

For more info, please visit Jodie’s author website or editor website, or find her on Facebook or Twitter.

 

Sunday, November 18, 2012

Honing Your Craft



by Jodie Renner, editor & author

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Want to succeed as a writer? There’s only one sure way: Roll up your sleeves, hone your fiction-writing skills, and start rereading and revising!
Ask any successful writer, and they’ll tell you that the first drafts of their novels were just the beginning, and that it was only after many revisions that the story and characters took shape to their satisfaction and they polished their writing style to a point where they could submit it to their agent or an editor, who then put them through several more rounds of editing before the story was ready for publication.
“Writing is Rewriting.” ~ Stephen King
For years, I’ve been helping writers become authors, offering concrete advice and guidance to take manuscripts up a level or three. I’m always amazed when occasionally someone contacts me about editing their novel, then gets offended when I suggest ways in which it can be improved. (Fortunately, the vast majority of my clients want to succeed and sell their books, so they welcome my suggestions.)
“Amateurs fall in love with every word they write.” ~ William Bernhardt
If you’re looking for someone to tell you your novel manuscript is perfect as it is, save your money and just ask your mom! (Or your spouse or best friend.) Authors of best-sellers aren’t afraid to admit that they revised their novel numerous times, often going through it and making changes thirty or forty times, then had agents’ and editors’ input and revised it again.
“Manuscript: something submitted in haste and returned at leisure.” ~ Oliver Herford
Maybe you’ve got a story you’re itching to tell and you think nobody should mess with it or tell you how to write it. That’s okay – get your story down first. But then, if you want to get it published, it’s important to be open to input and ideas on how to make it more compelling so it grabs the readers – and agents and acquiring editors, if you’re going that route. As you’re revising and learning, you’re honing your craft and getting closer to producing a best-seller. And you can always keep your early drafts, in case you want to go back to them, or pick out bits here and there to use.
“The beautiful part of writing is that you don’t have to get it right the first time, unlike, say, a brain surgeon.” ~ Michael Crichton

Remember, there are hundreds of effective, compelling ways to tell a story, and thousands of ineffective / boring / confusing ways to tell that same story.
“There is no way of writing well and also of writing easily.” ~ Anthony Trollope
 
If you decided to build a house and you’d never built one before, you probably wouldn’t just buy a bunch of lumber and start building it without first consulting experts, reading books, googling info, asking carpenter friends for advice, etc. So chances are high that you, as an aspiring author, won’t yet have acquired the skills to write a novel that sells, without doing some research into the fiction-writing techniques that make a story effective, compelling and publish-worthy.
“When something can be read without effort, great effort has gone into its writing.”  ~Enrique Jardiel Poncela
And as a freelance manuscript editor, specializing in fiction, that’s what I – and other editors like me – am here for: to point out not only your story’s strengths, but also areas that would benefit from rethinking, reworking, revision and maybe even – gasp! – cutting and/or rewriting. Writing workshops, craft-of-fiction resource books, and reputable blogs on writing fiction, as well as articles in magazines like Writer’s Digest, and of course freelance book editors like me, can all guide you and inform you of the latest effective fiction-writing techniques for crafting your opening, point of view, plot, characterization, dialogue, etc., with a natural flowing style and pacing that keep readers turning the pages.
“No author dislikes to be edited as much as he dislikes not to be published.”
~Russell Lynes

I find that I give the most advice and suggest the most revisions on the first few chapters (and prologue, if there is one), because the opening of your story is incredibly important. It’s what will make or break your novel. If the story hasn’t grabbed your readers in the first five pages or so, most readers will put it down and never pick it up again. In fact, if the first half page is weak, most agents or acquiring editors will chuck it. Your first page is critical – it sets the tone for the whole novel and introduces your protagonist and his dilemma – or at least hints at it.
“I try to leave out the parts that people skip.”  ~Elmore Leonard
A typical fault among novice fiction writers (even if they’re technically excellent writers and have published nonfiction books) is to spend too much time revving their engines at the beginning of their novel, setting the scene with description and providing background on the main character and his situation. Today’s readers don’t have the patience for all this long-winded meandering around and explaining at the beginning – they want to be swept up with your story and main character and his problems right away. You can always add in background details as your story progresses, on a “need to know” basis.
“I’m not a very good writer, but I am a good rewriter.” ~ James Michener
So if you’ve contacted me about editing your fiction manuscript, and I jump right in with advice on how to make your first pages more compelling and effective, which may well be to cut out all or most of your prologue and some or even most of your chapter one, don’t be insulted or alarmed. Remember that we both have the same goal in mind – to get your story published and read by a lot of people. So some deadwood may need to be trimmed at the beginning so you can start your story at a more compelling moment, with your protagonist, if not in hot water already, on the verge of it. Then you can work in that backstory little by little, as you go along.
“Sit down, and put down everything that comes into your head and then you're a writer.  But an author is one who can judge his own stuff's worth, without pity,
and destroy most of it.”  ~Colette, Casual Chance, 1964 

I find that typically, once the beginning is pared down to delete some of that excess description and “cut to the chase,” the rest of the novel goes much more smoothly, with way fewer major revisions.
“The wastebasket is a writer’s best friend.”  ~Isaac Bashevis Singer
An “okay” novel can often be turned into a remarkable one by:
~ Adding more conflict and intrigue. See my book, Writinga Killer Thriller – An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction. 
~ Deepening the characters to make them more compelling. See Creating Compelling Characters.
~ Doing more “showing” and less “telling” (“Show, Don’t Tell”)
~ Revising stilted dialogue so it sounds more natural and authentic: Tips for Writing Effective Dialogue.

~ Writing tighter. If your novel is more than 95,000 words long, you should be looking for ways to tighten it up and shorten it. See my book, Fire up Your Fiction (Style that Sizzles and Pacing for Power) for lots of tips for eliminating flab and writing tighter.
“My first draft is not even recognizable by the time I get to the last draft. I change everything. I consider myself at Square Zero when I finish the first draft. It’s almost like I use that draft to think through my plot. My hard copy of each draft will be dripping with ink by the time I finish, and I’ll do that several times.” ~ Terri Blackstock
But you don’t have to take my word for it – there are all kinds of great books on writing and revising fiction out there, not to mention articles in magazines like Writer’s Digest, blog posts by writers, agents, and editors, creative writing classes, and writers’ conferences and workshops. See the Resources page of my website for a list of excellent books on writing fiction and other resources that I recommend to my clients.
Keep on writing! And remember, writing is rewriting! Or as my mom (and probably yours too) used to say, “Rome wasn’t built in a day.”
© Jodie Renner, November 2012   www.jodierennerediting.com
Also, see my articles, "How to Save a Bundle on Editing Costs" and "It's All About the Writing," both on Crime Fiction Collective, and Revising and Polishing Your Novel on this
blog.


Jodie Renner has published two books to date in her series, An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction: Writing a Killer Thriller and Fire up Your Fiction (Style That Sizzles & Pacing for Power), which has won two book awards so far. Look for her third book, Immerse the Readers in Your Story World, out soon. For more info, please visit Jodie’s author website or editor website, her blogs, Resources for Writers and The Kill Zone, or find her on Facebook, Twitter, and Google+. And sign up for her newsletter.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



 
 





Saturday, May 26, 2012

My Recent Craft-of-Fiction Articles on Other Blogs

by Jodie Renner, freelance editor
www.JodieRennerEditing.com

Here are some of my craft-of-fiction articles that have appeared in recent months on other blogs:  


CRIME FICTION COLLECTIVE:

Jan. 2, 2012: Don’t Lecture Your Readers

Jan. 10, 2012:  Appeal to the Senses — and Emotions

Jan. 15-16, 2012:  Show Those Feelings – and Reactions!

Feb. 13, 2012: Some Dialogue Don’ts

March 4-5, 2012: Set up Your Story in the First Paragraphs

March 11-12, 2012: It’s All About the Writing

March. 26Tips on Picking up the Pace

April 9 – Cut the Clutter and Streamline Your Writing, Part I

April 23 Cut the Clutter and Streamline Your Writing, Part II

May 7 – Creating a Scene Outline for Your Novel

May 21 - Cut the Clutter and Streamline Your Writing, Part III


D.P. LYLE, MD’S WRITER'S FORENSICS BLOG:

Jan. 11, 2012: Tension on Every Page, Part I

Jan. 14, 2012: Tension on Every Page, Part II

Jan. 2012: Tension on Every Page, Part III

Mar. 8, 2012: Heightening the Suspense, Part I

Mar. 11, 2012: Heightening the Suspense, Part II

Mar. 14, 2012: Heightening the Suspense, Part III

April 2, 2012: Check Your Facts, Ma’am!

May 20, 2012: POV 101: Get into Your Protagonist’s Head

May 23, 2012: POV 102: How to Avoid Head-Hopping  

May 26, 2012: POV 103: Deep Point of View, or Close Third


BLOOD-RED PENCIL BLOGSPOT:

Naming Your Characters


Hyphens, Ellipses and Dashes

Questions for Your Beta Readers

Show Your Setting Through Your POV Character’s Eyes

Expressing Thought-Reactions in Fiction


THE THRILL BEGINS:

Creating a Worthy Antagonist

Thrillers vs. Mysteries

Those Critical First Five Pages

Every Scene Needs Conflict and a Change

The Editing Process: Interview of a Freelance Editor  

Jodie Renner is a freelance editor specializing in thrillers, romantic suspense, mysteries, and other crime fiction. Please check out Jodie’s website and blog, as well as her group blog, Crime Fiction Collective.
Jodie’s craft of fiction articles appear regularly on various blogs, and she has published two popular craft-of-fiction e-books in the series, An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction: Writing a Killer Thriller and Style that Sizzles and Pacing for Power.

Both are on sale at Amazon, and you don’t need to own a Kindle to buy and read Kindle e-books – you can download them to your PC, Mac, tablet or smartphone. Style that Sizzles will be out in paperback soon.





Thursday, May 24, 2012

Interview with Robb Grindstaff, Freelance Editor


I recently interviewed fellow freelance editor and Facebook friend, Robb Grindstaff, about his take on the freelance editing process.


JR: What should authors look for in an editor, and expect from an editing process?

RG: Look for compatibility in work style, a good working relationship, a good “fit,” for lack of a better term. Editing is a collaborative process, but with a freelance/independent editor, the writer is ultimately in charge of all decisions. If you don't understand why your editor made a change or suggested something, ask. You should get a reasoned, rational explanation, which may or may not agree with your instincts. Listen to your editor, but in the end, you have to be true to yourself, your work, your voice, and make the decision that's right for you. Your editor shouldn't be offended by that. Your editor should always be trying to edit to improve YOUR story in YOUR voice, not rewrite it the way he would have written it.


JR: What do editors hope for in clients or expect from clients? 
RG: I hope for clients who want to learn, who have thick skin and don't get offended if I write a cryptic comment in the margin that might say, “This doesn't make sense,” or “This sounds awkward,” or “I'd drop this, it's too _________ (fill in the blank).” And writers who will ask for an explanation if I'm too cryptic and don't tell why or give a suggestion on how to make something better. And it’s okay if, after listening to me, you say, “I get what you're saying, but I'm going to leave that word/sentence/paragraph/scene as is.” I won't be offended. I try to go back to writers and ask, “What are you trying to say here?” or “What is this scene trying to accomplish?” I want writers who come back to me and say “Why did you strike this sentence? I thought it went to portraying the character's state of mind.” The most important work will come from that back and forth discussion on points of either disagreement or lack of understanding on either part.


JR: What level(s) of editing do you provide? Do you charge one overall fee or different fees for different processes? 
RG: I provide three basic levels of editing, or any combination thereof.

Lowest level is a basic proofread, which is just to correct typos, punctuation, spelling, and grammar errors—purely a technical, mechanical edit. This should always be the last edit in the process before sending your manuscript out to agents, publishers, or uploading to the self-publishing process.


A line edit or copy edit is a much more in-depth, detailed line-by-line editing of the manuscript. A line edit looks at the writing, the prose, the word choices, sentence structures, continuity and consistency. A line edit can also look at some larger issues such as pace and flow or organizational structure of the novel. 

The highest level edit is an analysis/critique—also called a manuscript assessment or evaluation. This doesn't provide a line-by-line edit, but a detailed report that looks at the major issues in crafting a novel: narrative arc, plot and subplots, point of view and perspective, characterization, voice, use of setting, pace and flow, organization, and will provide an analysis of any recurring issues with the writing itself. 

The best way to remember these is that a line edit looks at the writing quality, and an analysis (or critique or evaluation) looks at the story (although there is certainly some overlap).

A developmental edit is a customized combination of all three levels of editing in a longer process, designed for each writer's specific needs. It starts with a first or early draft, then progresses through rewrites and revisions.

Prices are also customized for each client because every manuscript is different, based on the level or type of editing and how involved that editing will be. Before taking on a client, I read the opening chapters of a manuscript, provide a sample edit of the opening pages, make a recommendation for what type of edit (unless the writer has specifically requested a particular level), and provide a firm price quote at that time with no surprises later. General rates can run from $1 per manuscript page (approx 250 words per page) for light proofreading, up to as much as $6 per manuscript page for full developmental editing over a period of weeks or months.


JR: Do you charge by the page, hour or word? Why did you choose that method? And what are some pros and cons of your method of charging. 
RG: I use a combination of methods to determine a price quote in advance, customized for each manuscript and each writer. On my website, I publish price ranges based on per manuscript page, estimating 250 words per page, so writers can estimate a general price based on the size of their manuscript and the type of editing needed. When I do a sample edit, I estimate how much time I think the edit might take, compare that to my per page rates, and then try to come up with a firm price quote that is fair to me and the time I'll need to invest in order to do a professional job, as well as fair, reasonable, and affordable to the writer. As a writer first and foremost, I understand that most writers don't have gobs of cash lying about in which to hire editors. I'd rather have three clients at modest rates than quote higher rates and have no clients. I compare my rates and prices against the “industry standards” chart on the Editorial Freelancers Association website to ensure my rates are well below "industry standard."



JR: Do you do a free sample edit or edit a chapter or section at a low fee, as a sample of how you’d handle their work? 
RG: As noted above, I always do a free sample first—no charge, no obligation. I usually read the first 20-30 pages of a manuscript, then do a sample edit of the opening 10 pages or thereabouts. That's the only way that I can get a true feeling of what type of editing is needed, how involved it is, how much time it might take me, in order to quote a fair price to the potential client. It's also a key factor for the writer to determine if I'm the right editor: Do I edit the voice out of the work? Do I “get” the story and what the writer is trying to accomplish? Do I catch little errors and big issues in the opening pages? Do I have sound recommendations and suggestions that help the story and the writing? Does the writer get the impression from my sample edit that she would enjoy working with me or find me annoying?


JR: Fees and payments – how do you work that? Half at the start and half at the end? Pay in installments as the editing proceeds and edited sections are sent to client? 

RB: In most cases, I request half in advance to schedule the work on my calendar. The remaining half isn't due until I complete the work and send the finished product back to the writer. So we both have to have a measure of trust, of course. For most edits, I edit the entire manuscript and send it back all at once. After I complete the edit, however, the writer has me on retainer for up to 90 days as she goes through her manuscript and my edits, for questions, clarifications, for me to read revised scenes as needed, or to discuss different ways to handle any particular issue. For the longer (and more expensive) developmental edits, I can customize the payment schedule based on the milestones in the development process, and break it into three or four payments as appropriate and as meets the writer's needs and budget. In all cases, I'm flexible, and have worked out a variety of arrangements to meet the writer's needs.


JR: Do you have any tips for writers looking for a freelance editor? 

RG: When looking for an editor, I recommend a three-step process, and I recommend checking with more than one editor so you can get a feel for how each one is different in order to select the one with the best fit for you and your work. The three steps to follow: 1) get references, 2) get a free, no-obligation sample edit, 3) get more references.


Also, keep in mind that at any given moment, I (or any other editor) may have clients lined up on the calendar for weeks or even months in advance, so don't wait until the last minute and expect to find an editor sitting around with no work, ready to start on your manuscript tomorrow. If you do find an editor with no work, let that raise an eyebrow. Sure, there are times when I might be available to work in another client this month, but there are times when I am taking reservations 90 days in advance.

JR: Thanks for dropping by, Robb! Always interesting to hear about the process and services of other freelance editors.


For an interview of Jodie Renner about the freelance editing process, please go to this link at The Thrill Begins Blogspot.


Writers - do you have any questions for Robb or Jodie about the freelance editing process and their approach, process and services?

Robb Grindstaff's info:
Website: http://robbgrindstaff.com


Email: robb@robbgrindstaff.com

Jodie Renner is a freelance editor specializing in thrillers, romantic suspense, mysteries, and other crime fiction. Please check out Jodie’s website and blog, as well as her group blog, Crime Fiction Collective.
Jodie’s craft of fiction articles appear regularly on various blogs, and she has published two popular craft-of-fiction e-books in the series, An Editor’s Guide to Writing Compelling Fiction: Writing a Killer Thriller and Style that Sizzles and Pacing for Power.

Both are on sale at Amazon, and you don’t need to own a Kindle to buy and read Kindle e-books – you can download them to your PC, Mac, tablet or smartphone. Style that Sizzles will be out in paperback soon.